minux - discontinued.

[shorun]

development on minux has been halted, the files are still available on https://minux.cc/manual

Minux is an add-on for craftOS computers in ComputerCraft, it expands what craftOS can do and comes with an "app store" (apt).
Installed software can be linked to multiple repositories that anyone can host allowing unprecedented combinations of software.
it mostly expands on rednet networking functionality, adding several new programs and functions for your network to use.

it adds new commands, functions for programmers, a user account system (local or networked), is highly configurable and a whole host of optional software.
you can host your own copy tailored to your specific needs on your own system for you and your friends with relative ease.

it comes with extensive documentation, for any other questions feel free to contact me on discord.

[RubberDuckyDJ]

I've just started playing around with this, It's super cool so far! TYSM for posting this.

[NeonKatVT]

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There's one thing I need to tell you about this design.

• The installer needs a better GUI and not just spamming of file installs after the menu is selected
• On 1.12.2 users, the screen remains black. This is a concern for CraftOS 1.8

[shorun]

it would indeed be much better with another UI, this is a "good enough" solution.
the spamming of files during install is now reduced, there's still the output but it overwrites the previous line when successfull during downloads.

an attempt to package these files into archives to reduce the amount of downloads failed for the simple reason it takes to much space to have the archive program + the OS packed + OS unpacked at the same time on default Computercraft disk sizes.

On 1.12.2 users, the screen remains black. This is a concern for CraftOS 1.8

It's CC being to old, more specifically the "require" function of CC:Tweaked that it's tripping over.

[shorun]

an attempt to package these files into archives to reduce the amount of downloads failed for the simple reason it takes to much space to have the archive program + the OS packed + OS unpacked at the same time on default Computercraft disk sizes.

after several days, we have succeeded in doing exactly this, now every package is a single file to download in stead of several smaller ones, significantly speeding up the installation process.

[Ry0]

Your site is behaving strangely, after a single visit to the site it seems to block me and it stops loading. I tried using different VPN locations, I thought that maybe the problem is with blocking in my region, but no, everywhere the visit to the site works only once. Because of this, your OS cannot be installed...

[shorun]

Your site is behaving strangely, after a single visit to the site it seems to block me and it stops loading. I tried using different VPN locations, I thought that maybe the problem is with blocking in my region, but no, everywhere the visit to the site works only once. Because of this, your OS cannot be installed...

the reason you are being blocked is because you are trying to use a vpn provider that is also used to attack systems. this is why it always works just once, the act of said VPN provider connecting gets detected and then blocked off, we are not obligated to ensure the functionality of a shady VPN provider that is mostly used to search for weaknesses. This does not happen for every VPN provider, only the shady ones.

try a less shitty VPN provider that doesn't hide/help attackers or just not use a VPN at all, there's no reason why you'd need a VPN for this.
also, considering we can't see who you are, we cannot see your home adres, we cannot trace you, the only information your IP could potentially give is what ISP you are using and what general region (country/state) it's from, that' it. your isp is not going to tell us who you are, your privacy is protected by them. you're not gaining any privacy by using a VPN, you're only gaining lag/latency and potential connection issues with private systems.

the only reason you'd want to use a VPN as a consumer is because of things like netflix blocking content from certain regions, we don't do that.

[jessiejessjess]

No VPN on my end, and your site behaves the exact same as Ry0 describes. I was able to browse it for a while before it began timing out endlessly. I've been able to see it on data, but not on my home network. What's this about?

edit: using *any* VPN makes it work again. is my *residential* ip address on an abuse list or something?

[shorun]

No VPN on my end, and your site behaves the exact same as Ry0 describes. I was able to browse it for a while before it began timing out endlessly. I've been able to see it on data, but not on my home network. What's this about?

edit: using *any* VPN makes it work again. is my *residential* ip address on an abuse list or something?

if you are part of a used blacklist you would not get that first connection at all since you'd already be known and blocked before you even try, you'd just be ignored outright and time out from the start.

if you get a page once then nothing, then the webserver itself responded just fine but a security tool monitoring the log entries then picks up on something and blocks that ip, that's what is going on, in this case a false-positive...
 
this can happen for many reasons, usually it's a bad vpn being detected or a shady request to the server,
it can also happen with certain browsers (or rather, how it identifies) or AI tools (greedy data grabbing has the tendency to trip honeypots), if you could give me a timestamp on when you had this happen then i could go into the logs and see what triggered this. (mention or account for your timezone!)

when you switched between "residential" and "data", did that also switch device/browser? i'm assuming you switched to your phone to test this and with that you started using your phone's browser?


of course, there is also the possibility of really bad timing, the system does need maintenance and when we are testing new things it does get pulled down sometimes.

[BrisingrAerowing]

Is the Minux website having issues? I couldn't get to it yesterday and it's still not working today.

[shorun]

Is the Minux website having issues? I couldn't get to it yesterday and it's still not working today.

yeah, the vps had hardware issues this weekend, must have been serious because it took them all weekend to get the host back up.
it's back since this morning.

edit:
the vps will go down from time to time, can't change that.
but what you could do to avoid having this issue for yourself is to host your own copy of the repository, it can be done on your local pc for just yourself, on your network for just your LAN or for the entire internet. you can also host older versions if you want to use a specific version or just don't want to update.
it's a bit of work to get done and there are some parts that require explaining, you can find more information here: https://minux.cc/wiki/index.php/Manuals/repoinstall

[BrisingrAerowing]

I'll look into setting up a local repo later. The site is still timing out for me.

[shorun]

if it keeps timing out for you, pm me on this forum so i can send you my discord details so we can investigate what's happening.

[BrisingrAerowing]

And it's working now. I have a suspicion that my ISP was doing something over the past couple weeks. A few other sites were timing out as well. They've broken a few things before.

[shorun]

And it's working now. I have a suspicion that my ISP was doing something over the past couple weeks. A few other sites were timing out as well. They've broken a few things before.

there's been things happening lately, amazon and cloudlflare come to mind but those are just the things that reach the news, could be something happening, our own system went down two times past week due to hardware issues with the host machine, things happen. glad it works now.

perhaps grab a full copy to host local in case things breaks again. you only need to extract the files in the right place and host it on a local webserver, i sometimes break things when updating but the archives are all as stable as i could get them.

the software mangager (APT) was also designed with other hosts in mind, what url it downloads from is a configuration setting, it does not care if it's from minux.cc or any other url, it's a very simplified version (1 MB disk space!) of the real debian's aptitude that can be set to any repository you want.
you could run your own private server with your own personal tweaks. in fact the different versions simply have another apt url location preventing big updates being forced on existing users by surprise (and thus breaking things).

in the end it's only one system hosting the entire thing and it's not even a real computer but a virtual one! we try our best to keep things going but can't prevent all problems. of course, if anyone is willing to provide a mirror host, that would change a lot....


edit: upon further inspection i noticed someone browsing the website on an android phone using google's "text to speech" AI, was that you? because that might have been the issue, AI stuff tends to trigger the system's bot detection, i dispise ai bot crawlers, they lag my zomboid!